wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Just wanted to add, after reading Skeeter1's comment... I agree, spoil her, take her out, keep her from the meetings in any way you can "Let's go out to eat", "let's go to a weekend getaway"
Reason: It's easier for our brains when the clamps are not on every minute.
Develop your personal relationship with her, do the things that she is interested in.
Smiles, hugs & kisses are always remembered.
i`ve just received this from barbara anderson..it`s her interview with radio personality chuck morse..thanks barbara!...
morse, who is known for his free-wheeling and insightful intellectual style, was named to the list of heavy 100 radio talk show hosts by talkers magazine, and as the national right to work committee communicator of the year in 2003.
"i have developed a reputation for inviting guests who express opinions on all sides of issues.
Many on this board have access to active JW’s .
Cults use “information control,” so, give them information.
Listen to the interview, take notes, and use every opportunity to share the information you learn from this podcast, and educate, educate, educate.
Include phrases like: " Just Google it" " Candace Conti," "Irwin Zalkin," " Campos ," etc, etc.”
Remember: “repetition for emphasis” repetition is a good teacher….
This can be like a grass-roots movement.
And don’t think it doesn’t work, because my husband’s last two experiences were positive.
a letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
Exactly Clearpoison!
The "Organization" is constantly "moving forward with Jehovah's chariot" in distancing itself from lawsuits....
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Welcome Mikeypants!
"Kids" can be a great way to start the conversation....
"So, dear, I was thinking about what has been happening in these court cases... i.e. 'Candace Conti', 'Southern CA/ Campos'
"How do you feel about the way the WT / GB have not been really caring about how the kids are not protected? I don't want that to happen to our child..."
Give her tiny bits of info, ask questions over a long period of time, from the viewpoint of protecting your child.
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
Page 9 of this link, near the bottom re: Joseph Herrera
jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
(90 pages).
http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.
credit to vidqun for the direction given.. the watchtower november 15th qfr http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20141115/ blows the selection process/timing/individuals clean out of the water!.
simply put, ask any witness these questions:.
who is represented by the 'two witnesses' in revelation chapter 7?
Great reasoning. Thanks
just out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.
she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.
i thought oh s#^%!.
Perfect logic respectful observer!! Too funny! I would love to be there to see the look on their face!
If you hear a JW express confusion/lack of understanding of how you can scripturally support multiple generations actually being 1 (overlapping) generation, you could always say:
"It's really quite simple...although they are seperate generations from a human perspective, from a Bible perspective, they are 1. Sort of like when Jesus said: 'I and the Father are one.'...seperate from a human perspective, but a single being from...oh wait, that's the Trinity! Nevermind! The using that logic to defend the Trinity Doctrine never made any sense!"
it used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.
how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.
Thanks for the topic, Searcher, and
THX to Punk, Shirley & BU2B.. Great quotes that I will save
Marvin: I like those quotes you had, short, sweet, to the point! Touche!
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
Thank you for such a clear list.
When you read the book, it sounds like the WT: clear lunacy (if lunacy can be clear)
#28 made me cry, when I read @ the adjustments made for the "Hoboken Tunnel"
